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Monday, September 10, 2007

Ogden Valley Tax Revolt - part 21!

According to today's Standard, well over 100 (we would guess more like 150 - 200 as they were lined up chaotically outside as well as inside) Huntsville Residents packed the Huntsville Town Hall Saturday night to have Ogden Valley Realtors provide a Market Analysis of their Property. The goal was to reduce the assessed value of the properties, which in turn will reduce the assessed tax.

We also read that the county expects over 2000 appeals, although to date they have only received 675. The deadline is September 17, so time is critical if you have not yet submitted your appeal.

From the September 7 issue, we hear rumblings of several state legislators who are planning property tax relief for seniors. While we at the forum are optimistic, we don't hold much hope of the legislature passing a bill that would provide WIDESPREAD tax relief. We must turn up the heat and keep applying the pressure.

For more tax related info, be sure to check our sister page which will be updated over the next few days.

UPDATE: 9:00 am

All great minds think alike, and the following was posted concurrently by our VCRD staff:

Help for property tax appeals.

Thanks to the dedication of Richard Sorensen, Huntsville City Councilman, and several Real Estate volunteers, many residents of Huntsville received help regarding their property tax appeals Saturday night at the Huntsville Town Hall.

The resident response exceeded all expectations and indicates the importance of this issue to all.

We urge all Valley residents that wish to appeal their property tax assessment, to do so before Sept. 17th of this year. Read the story in Sunday's Standard Examiner about details. There is a story on the front page and also in the Top of Utah section. If you need any help, contact Mountain Valley Realty (745-4141), Gage Froerer & Assoc (745-4221) and John Allaire (745-2619)

Your VCRD Staff

Sunday, September 09, 2007

Important Meeting Today

The second workshop on the Resort Recreation Ordinance is today, Sept. 10 at 5PM. at the Weber County Commission Chambers.

The Public Hearing for the Sensitive Land Ordinance is Monday, Sept. 17 at 5PM. Click here to view an interactive map.

October 11 is the third (hopefully last) workshop on the Resort Recreation Ordinance, and if time allows they'll start working on the TDR ordinance.

Thursday, September 06, 2007

Ogden Valley Property Tax Page Being Created

We at the forum are in the process of creating a page dedicated to the property tax issue. That way, these other important issues such as the Powder Mountain and Ski Lake rezone requests will still have prime posting, but we can easily access the Property tax information. As Mr. Zini so eloquently states, we must Stay focused. Stay tuned....

Wednesday, September 05, 2007

Public Hearing On Draft OV Sensitive Land Ordinance

Important Reminder!

The Public Hearing for the Draft Ogden Valley Sensitive Land Ordinance is scheduled for Monday, September 17, 2007 at 5:00 PM in the Weber Center, 2380 Washington Blvd., Ogden in the Weber County Commission Chambers.

The draft ordinance with Planning Commission changes can be viewed on the Weber County Planning Commission web site along with an interactive map of the Ogden Valley Sensitive Lands.

Please review the draft ordinance with the new changes. Then let the Ogden Valley Planning Commission know whether you are for, against or have further recommended changes to the draft ordinance by attending the September 17 meeting, e-mailing or calling the OVPC clerk, Sherry Sillito at: ssillito@co.weber.ut.us. Her telephone number is 801-399-8791. Be sure to include your name and address with any correspondence and request that she give each of the commissioners a copy of your comments prior to the public hearing.

Remember: Speak up for what you want or take what you get!

Your VCRD Staff

Tuesday, September 04, 2007

Ogden Valley FOR SALE

We were just informed that one of the council members in Huntsville is looking into PUTTING THE TOWN FOR SALE. More specifically, every lot and residence in town, with the concurrence of support of the property owner of course.

More specifically, he is looking into purchasing hundreds of all weather posterboard signs (similar to campaign signs) which would state, "FOR SALE - Can't afford the taxes!"

He is formulating the initial order, but the cost with a wooden stake would be about $1 each (maybe a bit less with volume).

This would certainly generate local and state press to our plight, and probably even national media attention.

If you would like a sign, contact Richard Sorensen immediately as he will place the order VERY soon based on interest. Also, please let him know if you would consider being a distribution point for your area.

Sunday, September 02, 2007

We start off this Sabbath morn with a previously overlooked Deseret News article from August 28th, "IS UTAH NEXT FOR A CAP ON HOME TAX?" But first a clarification: There may have been some unintended consequences with the 25 year old California legislation as there is with any legislation. Quite simply, you can never cover all your bases. However, 25 years have passed and at least 11 states have enacted some sort of tax relief.

We at the forum say examine the other state's initiatives and create one that works for Utah. We call that Prop 13 Type legislation. The Anti Tax relief lobbyists curiously leave out the "type" in their organized propaganda against tax relief.

Next, we read a letter to the SL Tribune from former Californian John A. Davidson who claims Proposition 13 passed because of "unbridled lust for additional tax revenue." That certainly sounds familiar in Weber County.

For a weekly dose of satire, Standard writer Mark Saal mentions his 43% tax increase.

We will conclude this morning with a series of articles and video from our neighbors on the Southeast side of the Valley. Congratulations to Father David who was recently elected to be the new Abbot of our own Trappist Monastery.

We are fortunate to have these great neighbors as there are only 12 such Trappist Monastery's in the U.S. Father David Altman, now Rev. David Altman, has been a member of the community for 41 years.

And finally, a Kutv 2 news story about our Trappist Friends.

BLOGMEISTER NOTE: One of the downsides to Blogs is that many postings get "pushed" down as new blogs are posted. That is the idea behind a Web Log, aka BLOG. While we try to link past posts to new posts of similar and important content, some may be overlooked. That is why we suggest you check back often and scroll down to view previous posts.

Better yet, get involved by posting your comments by clicking the "comments" link below.

Thursday, August 30, 2007

Property Taxes, Blacksmith Shop and Rep. Gage Froerer's contributions and The Monastery

SEE UPDATES AT END OF POST

Today we present a potpourri of VERY IMPORTANT issues. First, kudos to the strong stance Huntsville Resident and Weber County Republican Party Delegate, Alan Clapperton, has taken against our elected officials (Republicans) with regard to the Property Tax Crisis. Read his strongly worded letter to the editor in today's Standard Examiner.

Also in today's Standard, we read reporter MARSHALL THOMPSON's version of the planning commission tabling the requested rezone of the Blacksmith Shop in Eden. As he mentions, Weber County planner [Scott] "Mendoza said the petition has gotten a lot of attention. 'I’ve gotten several e-mails. … I think the blacksmith shop is held pretty dear in Eden.'"

Larry Zini of the VCRD also offered a report on the Planning commission meeting yesterday on this very Forum. Ogden Valley's voice is being heard in ways previously unheard of even a year ago, and our humble readers are to be commended.

Back to the Property tax issue, Huntsville Resident D-Bell has been in contact with lawyers and has an initial plan of attack, but it is now time to put up or .... shut up!



If you are willing to pitch into the legal fund, send Mr. Bell an email and let him know your level of dedication (i.e. how much cash will you be willing to put into the legal fund).

We finish up today with several Property tax and Proposition 13 related articles and documents forwarded to us by our esteemed State Legislature and Huntsville resident, Gage Froerer.

This issue is heating up. What say you Ogden Valley?

Click "Comments" below to opine.

Update 8-31-07: County Commissioners Guest Commentary from Today's Standard

Update 9-1-07: Our most gracious friends at the Monastery could use our support.

Wednesday, August 29, 2007

OVPC Meeting Last Night (Aug 28th)

Congratulations! You are making a difference!

During yesterday’s OVPC (Ogden Valley Planning Committee) meeting both the Planning Dept. staff and the Commission mentioned the numerous e-mails and phone calls they received concerning the rezone request ZP #10-27 for the Blacksmith Shop property in Eden. As a result of your efforts staff recommended a denial or tabling of the petition, and that the petitioner work with them to better utilize the property under current neighborhood commercial zoning and possibly a historical preservation approach. The Commission accepted staff’s recommendation and tabled the rezone request.

A discussion also ensued about the possibility of developing a historical zone for the one or two block area surrounding Eden Park.

That was the good news.

There were 4 Consent and 12 Regular agenda items scheduled for last night. After a 4 hour meeting the Commission only completed review and made recommendations on the 4 consent and first 6 regular agenda items. The remaining 6 items will be heard in a special OVPC meeting scheduled for Thursday, September 13. And, although the published Meeting Agenda did not indicate public input would not be permitted, there was no public input allowed on Sage Glen.

The Commission gave recommendations for: final approval of the Country Gardens Subdivision, preliminary/final approval for Saddleback Range Subdivision, preliminary approval for Basin View Estates Cluster Subdivision, Eden Valley Ranch Cluster Subdivision, Elk Shadow Subdivision, Phase I of Moose Mountain Estates Cluster Subdivision and Sage Glen Cluster Subdivision (all phases). In total 181 home sites were given recommendations for preliminary and/or final approval for development.

After major concerns expressed by some in the audience and a few of the Commissioners, a discussion was held about insufficient County infrastructure present to handle any water sheet flow and flooding from Country Gardens, Eden Valley Ranch or Elk Shadow to the homes and lands around these sites. The developers’ plans do not resolve these problems and homeowners could make matters even worse by building landscape berms. Additionally, these sites have been given Health Dept. approval for septic tanks!

Legal noted that the County Engineer is the final decision on possible water problems. The County Engineer said the impact fees recently passed will help with the cost of addressing some drainage problems in the County. What he failed to mention was that the impact fees will only be collected at the time of a building permit, not at the time of subdivision development. If only lots are sold in a development it may be years before the County has the necessary funds via impact fees to address this problem!

Presentation of Moose Mountain and Sage Glen Cluster Subdivisions redesigns were accepted by the Commission, again without any input allowed from the audience on Sage Glen.

Despite the concerns and the fact that we did not hear a definitive resolution to the water sheeting problems discussed, all of the developments recommended last night will go to the Weber County Commission for approval. No public input is usually allowed at such meetings. So let your voices be heard; get your typing skills sharpened and begin writing to the three County Commissioners on your concerns about these developments!

Our questions to our Commissioners should be, why are we approving any new developments using septic tanks? With the water quality already described as "polluted" and at best "Impaired" in Pineview Reservoir, what are our elected leaders thinking? We may have to live with existing septic tanks, but we certainly don't need any new ones!

We should also demand that the County Engineer give his total assurance that there will be no water sheeting problems
caused by the construction of these new subdivisions if they are approved by the Weber County Commission.

Your VCRD Staff

UPDATE - 8/29/07 2:00 PM Our humble State Representative, Gage Froerer, has sent some Property tax related articles and documents for posting on the Forum. Check back later this evening to review.

Monday, August 27, 2007

OVPC Meeting on Tuesday, August 28th 4:30PM

This is an alert for all readers of our blog. The OVPC meeting for tomorrow has a full agenda. Some of the agenda items are
Eden Valley Ranch Cluster Subdivision, Elk Shadow Subdivision, Moose Mountain Estates Phase 1 and the Sage Glen Subdivision in Five Phases.

The new posts below describe other agenda items in more detail. If you have input or concerns regarding any of these agenda items, be at the meeting and/or write your OVPC Commissioners to express your feelings.

Your VCRD Staff

UPDATE - 8-28, 2007: The Ogden Valley Forum and Huntsville Resident Larry Zini was quoted in yesterdays
Salt Lake Tribune

And in the August 28th Standard Examiner, we read a
guest commentary by Eden Resident Richard Evans who tells of interesting phone calls with our elected officials regarding property taxes.

Change in CVR-1 Zone in Huntsville Area

On August 28, 2007 at 4:30PM the Ogden Valley Planning Commission will have their regular meeting. On the Agenda
is a request (ZP #11-07) from new property owners to amend the already approved Residential and Commercial Area Requirements for parcel #20-036-0035 located at the Southwest corner of Old Snowbasin Road and Hwy. 39.

The VCRD and local residents oppose this request for the following reasons:

This property has been rezoned twice before.
• First it was rezoned to CV-2.

The previous owner then petitioned to rezone to CVR-1 so that a condo/tel could be built.

When the original CVR-1 rezoning petition (from CV-2 to CVR-1) was granted it was with limits. Those limits included:

• the maximum sizing of 63,000 sq. ft. (as originally presented by petitioner when she requested rezoning to CV-2),

• a mixture of residential and commercial,

• a minimum of 15,750 sq. ft. of non-lodging type commercial,

• the commercial portion is to be built simultaneously with the condo/tel.

The current CVR-1 zoning with restrictions should have been apparent to the new owners at the time of their due diligence when purchasing the property or before committing moneys to this project.

Lifting of the restrictions would increase the overall size of the building to 72,000 sq. ft., and reduce, or possibly eliminate the requirements for non-lodging type commercial under 9C-5 of the CVR-1 ordinance.

Additionally, on the site plan the new owner is showing a 35 ft height under a conditional use permit increasing the height maximum from 25 ft. to 35 ft.

The VCRD membership and local residents are opposed to any conditional height increase as well. The current town homes (Ski Lake Townhomes) & condos now being built across Hwy 39, are limited to a 25 ft. height along Hwy 39. Some of these condos and townhouses are permitted to be taller than 25 ft. as they build down the slope closer to the water.

The property in question is on the South side of Hwy. 39 and on an upslope. This means that any construction activity will start out higher than the townhouses and condo’s on the North side of Hwy. 39, and if granted a conditional use increase in height, will be much higher overall than other similar units built in the area. This could negatively impact the view lines of the scenic corridor along Hwy. 39.

We ask that this commission recommend denial of this request to amend and lift the restrictions on the CVR-1 zoning for this property and also deny any conditional use increase in the height from 25 ft to 35 ft.

We urge all VCRD members and Valley residents to take a stand against this "shell game" approach to the development planning process. Show up at the meeting and be heard and/or write your OVPC Commissioners.

The VCRD Staff

Friday, August 24, 2007

Protect the Blacksmith Shop in Eden

NOTE: This is one of two important posts today. Be sure to also view the previous post regarding Property Taxes.


On Tuesday, August 28 at 4:30 PM the Ogden Valley Planning Commission will hear Zoning Petition ZP #10-07 to rezone property located at approximately 2145 N & 5500 E in Eden. This location includes the Blacksmith Shop (across the street from Eden Park).

The Blacksmith Shop is one of the few remaining buildings in Ogden Valley dating back to 1800’s and as such should be preserved. If there are citizens in the Ogden Valley that wish to assist in having the Blacksmith Shop in Eden designated as a historical landmark, now is the time to act.

The zoning petition should only be grated after receiving a specific commitment from the property owner to preserve the Blacksmith Shop as a historical building, including all the details that this commitment would entail.

If you agree with this position please e-mail or call the Ogden Valley Planning Commission before August 28 and ask them to protect the Blacksmith Shop in Eden by getting a written commitment from the owners before any rezone is granted.

Ogden Valley Planning Commission (OVPC)
E-mail:
You must write your e-mails to the planning clerk e-mail address and instruct her to give each Commission member a copy.

Her e-mail address is: ssillito@co.weber.ut.us

Regular Mail or Hand Delivery:
Mail or hand deliver your comments to:

Ogden Valley Township Planning Commission Office
Attention: Sherri Sillito, Planning department
2380 Washington Blvd. Ogden, UT 84401.

Include instructions to distribute your letter to all Ogden Valley Planning Commission members.

Telephone:

Sherri Sillito 801-399-8791

Remember to include your Name, and Address so they know who you are and to eliminate the possibility that your e-mail or letter would be discarded.

Property Taxes - A Broken Record?

A note for our new bloggers: The text underlined and in blue below is a link to another web site or article. Single click on the link to read the article.

With less than a month to challenge your property valuation, we are approaching the end game of our Showdown in the Valley, aka "The Ogden Valley Tea Party." The Valley rumblings are beginning to spill over the mountain, thanks in large part to a series of property tax related articles in the Standard Examiner. Huntsville resident D-Bell and others have also been spreading the word, and today we will post several links to related stories throughout Northern Utah.

First, in yesterday's Standard we read a letter from Huntsville's own Erma Wilson who does a masterful job of illustrating her tax situation as well as that of her youngest son.

While we are looking at letters to the editor, we see that Mr. Allen Miller of Layton has experienced several years of substantial increases.

Davis County residents will receive some immediate relief as a result of their revolt which began a few short days prior to our own, so there is still hope for us - we cannot give up our fight!

We see that Roy will not ask for a tax increase although they have experienced modest appreciation, while new growth has helped to keep the Morgan County tax rate even. We also see that Morgan County's assessed values have increased 20%, compared to 116% in Huntsville Town proper.

Several local residents have suggested a class action suit against the County Commissioners and Assessors to put an immediate halt to our outrageous increases. Lawyers are being consulted and the legal wrangling could be expensive ($10-20K we guess), but if spread over many residents the expense would be minimal. We would like to start compiling an informal list of those interested in putting $100 or more into a legal fund, so please drop us an email if you would be willing to join in the class. Also, be sure to let us know how much you would be willing and able to put into the legal fund.

That's all for now Ogden Valley, be sure to post your comments below.