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These sign stealing dorks are playing right into our hands. We couldn't ask for a better public relations coup than the article in the Standard Ex.on the stolen signs. Thanks folks, your nefarious actions have put us on the moral high ground.
I think that it is interesting that my family and myself have lived in the valley longer that a vast majority of its current residents. I am not against the establishment of powder mountain town, nor am I selfish enough to come to the foolish conclusion that I have a right to place my selfish desires on others. If they own the land and can, by way of what ever loop-hole or legal system, get their property to be used in the way that benefits them -then why should we stop them. Additionally, if people try and argue that their actions are effecting others and that makes it morally wrong, then those people must then concede that anything that happens that effects their taxes or ability to act in a state or town due to the government's actions is immoral. I wish people would just shut up about it and embrace inevitability.
Wow Anonymous, good thing our country's founding fathers did not have your defeatist attitude. Do you even understand the concept of no taxation without representation??
Is everyone aware of Powder Mountain's desire to exploit local natural resources by charging their guests a hefty fee to ski Wolf Canyon? They recently performed earthwork and grading up the canyon (non-permitted??, no EIR??). They want to close the area to winter access! Can they do that on public property? There is an agenda item for the December 15 Weber County Commission meeting that addresses access to the publicly owned property in the winter months. How far can they go?
What a joke. I actually read someone say the Powder Mountain Developers are biting the hand that is feeding them! Pathetic!
I worked at Powder MOuntain for years and watched helplessly as the local yocals waltzed up to the lift lines with pot in pocket and no lift passes and helped themselves to the freshies the the mountain has to offer. If you count on a Saturday the number of people right now skiing for free, the resort could probably pick up another $30k A YEAR at least in revenue. NOt to mention the employees selling passes in the parking lots at parties for $15 per pass! Way to support Powder Mountain.
The way I see it is that the ones the most against the resort development are the ones who have taken blatent advantage of the resorts management over the past 20-30 years. You are all pathetic in your fight over this resort. YOu are selfish and should be ashamed of yourselves for treating your neighbors like second class criminals and citizens just for buying property, the resort and wanting to improve things.
And Jim Halay, you can bet he was first in line to tour potential developers during the Olympics as a mountain host, why do you think he started the pizza joint, has he completely lost his mind? What a loss of business for him in the future.
First, there was no 'loophole' that granted the developers the right to form Powder Mountain Town. It was a very well devised scheme between the developers and willing Utah politicians who in the shadow of the night wrote a law that allowed for the development. Once the 'good' people of the legislator figured out what they had voted in, they voted it out just as fast. It was a scam, pure and simple.
Second, there is nothing selfish about people standing up for their constitutional rights that were tromped on by scheming individuals. Get your facts straight before you start calling people names.
Third, spare me your "I've lived here longer than the hills" speech. I'm sick of it. Guess what? I live here too. I have land just like you.
Forth, those people who were swallowed up by Powder Mountain Town are mostly in a demographic that generally does not need to steal tickets, or jump on the lifts for free, or any other silly things you accused them of doing.
I was at the meeting where the representatives of PM requested permission after the fact to close down the public trail so they could open it for private tours. Over and over again, PM employees testified that people used the mountain without paying. It sounds to me like their employees aren't doing a very good job. Maybe they just need more employees? If someone can get on a lift without a pass and the employees are selling discounted tickets in the parking lot, who's fault is that? Come on!
And finally, leave Jim Halay out of your childish rant. Mr. Halay is a good man. He lives here, works here, and loves the land. He has integrity.
Soon this will be finished…..and the people of Powder Mountain Town will be free.
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These sign stealing dorks are playing right into our hands. We couldn't ask for a better public relations coup than the article in the Standard Ex.on the stolen signs. Thanks folks, your nefarious actions have put us on the moral high ground.
I think that it is interesting that my family and myself have lived in the valley longer that a vast majority of its current residents. I am not against the establishment of powder mountain town, nor am I selfish enough to come to the foolish conclusion that I have a right to place my selfish desires on others. If they own the land and can, by way of what ever loop-hole or legal system, get their property to be used in the way that benefits them -then why should we stop them. Additionally, if people try and argue that their actions are effecting others and that makes it morally wrong, then those people must then concede that anything that happens that effects their taxes or ability to act in a state or town due to the government's actions is immoral. I wish people would just shut up about it and embrace inevitability.
Wow Anonymous, good thing our country's founding fathers did not have your defeatist attitude. Do you even understand the concept of no taxation without representation??
I saw some kids in a silver toyota highlander driving around near the golf course jumping out and stealing signs.
Is everyone aware of Powder Mountain's desire to exploit local natural resources by charging their guests a hefty fee to ski Wolf Canyon? They recently performed earthwork and grading up the canyon (non-permitted??, no EIR??). They want to close the area to winter access! Can they do that on public property? There is an agenda item for the December 15 Weber County Commission meeting that addresses access to the publicly owned property in the winter months.
How far can they go?
What a joke. I actually read someone say the Powder Mountain Developers are biting the hand that is feeding them! Pathetic!
I worked at Powder MOuntain for years and watched helplessly as the local yocals waltzed up to the lift lines with pot in pocket and no lift passes and helped themselves to the freshies the the mountain has to offer. If you count on a Saturday the number of people right now skiing for free, the resort could probably pick up another $30k A YEAR at least in revenue. NOt to mention the employees selling passes in the parking lots at parties for $15 per pass! Way to support Powder Mountain.
The way I see it is that the ones the most against the resort development are the ones who have taken blatent advantage of the resorts management over the past 20-30 years. You are all pathetic in your fight over this resort. YOu are selfish and should be ashamed of yourselves for treating your neighbors like second class criminals and citizens just for buying property, the resort and wanting to improve things.
And Jim Halay, you can bet he was first in line to tour potential developers during the Olympics as a mountain host, why do you think he started the pizza joint, has he completely lost his mind? What a loss of business for him in the future.
I'm shocked at some of these comments.
First, there was no 'loophole' that granted the developers the right to form Powder Mountain Town. It was a very well devised scheme between the developers and willing Utah politicians who in the shadow of the night wrote a law that allowed for the development. Once the 'good' people of the legislator figured out what they had voted in, they voted it out just as fast. It was a scam, pure and simple.
Second, there is nothing selfish about people standing up for their constitutional rights that were tromped on by scheming individuals. Get your facts straight before you start calling people names.
Third, spare me your "I've lived here longer than the hills" speech. I'm sick of it. Guess what? I live here too. I have land just like you.
Forth, those people who were swallowed up by Powder Mountain Town are mostly in a demographic that generally does not need to steal tickets, or jump on the lifts for free, or any other silly things you accused them of doing.
I was at the meeting where the representatives of PM requested permission after the fact to close down the public trail so they could open it for private tours. Over and over again, PM employees testified that people used the mountain without paying. It sounds to me like their employees aren't doing a very good job. Maybe they just need more employees? If someone can get on a lift without a pass and the employees are selling discounted tickets in the parking lot, who's fault is that? Come on!
And finally, leave Jim Halay out of your childish rant. Mr. Halay is a good man. He lives here, works here, and loves the land. He has integrity.
Soon this will be finished…..and the people of Powder Mountain Town will be free.
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